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Comment on Youth Ministry & The Art of Running the Race… by John Fix

John Fix — Mon, 06 May 2013 18:40:00 +0000

She is my hero ladies and gentlemen!

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 2 by philbell

philbell — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:54:00 +0000

Agreed! Our focus should be Christ!

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 2 by philbell

philbell — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:54:00 +0000

Thanks Jeremy! Yes, I am too thankful for Byron!

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 2 by Jeremy Linsley

Jeremy Linsley — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:32:00 +0000

My parents have been involved in youth ministry for over 35 years (as lay leaders). They are definitely uncool. But their uncoolness also shows students that someone has a genuine care for them. An old/uncool youth leader is most likely not trying to gain adoration or acceptance from the teens, they are there to give love. They also demonstrate that they do not see youth ministry as a doorway into “real ministry”, but prove by their longevity that they believe ministry to youth is vital.

Praise God for Byron and for men and women like him…

Jeremy

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 2 by Josh Kittleman

Josh Kittleman — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:33:00 +0000

Great great thoughts Phil.
If gone unchecked, insecurity will eat at us and keep us from directing the attention on what truly matters – Christ.
Praying for Byron.

Josh

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 1 by philbell

philbell — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:32:00 +0000

David, I am so glad to hear this. This is a challenge for me too. I’m joining you in thinking and praying about this. Phil <

Comment on A Leadership Lesson From A Youth Ministry Veteran: Part 1 by David Grant

David Grant — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:14:00 +0000

“Do they see someone who is great and youth ministry practitioner, or do
they see a leader with a wild and audacious faith that is magnetic and
worth following?”

Love this and am convicted. Thinking and praying about that statement this morning. Thank you.

Comment on Three Youth Ministry Priorities For Mondays by Jodibohn

Jodibohn — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:32:00 +0000

What is a day off? And how do you work so far ahead? I am barely keeping my head above water. My day hidden away is Wednesday because I have to hide away to finish me message for that night.

Comment on Time to Rethink Our Youth Ministry Worship Time… by Jeremy Linsley

Jeremy Linsley — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 12:56:00 +0000

Kyle – well said…

quality of music and program is very important and poor quality and chaotic transitions can be very distracting! I know this from experience here. We work with all volunteer staff and finding quality musicians that work well together is a big challenge. And the more instruments/personalities you add in, the harder it is to maintain a good level of professionalism.

Also, I know that I struggle with my own pride anytime I take a microphone in my hand. I want to serve God by using my voice (whether I’m preaching, praying or leading games), but I can quickly slide into a performance mode where I’m performing for my own glory. I’ve been in ministry 10 years. I’ve been a Christian for 28 years and God has been working on my understanding of my pride for a long time. So if I’m still struggling with that, is it fair to put a teen on a stage performing in front of his peers and expect/hope that he performs for God’s glory?

They are in such a precious and precarious stage of discovering who they are as a person and who they are in the eyes of God. And a stage has so many dangers to a soul. Especially in light of the cultural worship of those who are on a stage… just watch American Idol or The Voice or any other talent show on TV. Or just go to a concert.

You can see this quickly when someone messes up on stage. Embarrassment has pride intwined all through it.

I’m not saying all youth bands are bad and only those over 26 should be on a stage. I just want to be careful and thoughtful about these things.

So… all of that doesn’t answer any questions of what to do about worship time. It just poses more questions.

Thanks for continuing the discussion.

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. – 1 Cor 10:31

Comment on Time to Rethink Our Youth Ministry Worship Time… by philbell

philbell — Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:35:00 +0000

Jeremy! My Barakel friend!!! Great hear your thoughts!!! Did you see posts from Darren and Leneita this week? We’ve been sharing our challenges and struggles as process how to help students come back to the heart of worship. Would love to hear your thoughts on their posts too.

I really liked what Kyle said, “One thing I am reminded of is this: every youth group has the potential to become a place where the music in here sounds good, it looks good, everyone feels good, but it makes NO DIFFERENCE outside of these walls.” It’s so important that we help students to discover a life of worship as opposed to seeing it as an event or worship service.

Great discussion here!

Phil <